Four Dead In Ohio

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.  – 1st Amendment

On May 4, 1970, the nation was shocked by the Kent State Shooting. Dave asks the question, how do we as a free society – or any free society – move from a belief in the freedoms protected by the 1st Amendment to the reality of placing (in some cases) severe limits on those freedoms. Dave, Pat, and Jeff discuss the issue and look at the lessons of freedoms from around the globe contrasted to the United States of America.


Posted on February 11, 2014, in 1st Amendment, Freedom of Assemble, Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of the Press, Podcast, Redress of Grievances and tagged . Bookmark the permalink. 1 Comment.

  1. Additional comment from Jeff:

    Argument, Posturing, or Just a Giant Middle Finger

    At the Opening Ceremonies for the 2014 Sochi Olympics, one of the touch lighters was Russia’s Irena Vladislav. Irena is an MP from Vladimir Putin’s United Party. The controversy involved with Irena is that she posted a racist photo is our President and the First Lady, showing a doctored picture of a banana in view of the couple, who appears to have just taken a bite of some food at a sporting event.

    Irena did not apologize for this photo stating, “Freedom of speech is freedom of speech, and you should answer your own hang-ups”. She has a right to say this, but she also deserves any consequence that arises from this statement. But is this just an “out of the blue” statement or is there something that happened in the past that is driving this?

    Back in the 70’s, the comedy group Monty Python did a skit called “Argument Clinic”, where a man comes into a shop and pays to have an argument. One statement in there was “An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition. It isn’t just sayings No it isn’t” and “An argument is an intellectual process.” (If you have never seen it, just Google it. It sounds so much like modern day politics). So using this example, let us examine this a little closer to see if this is just fodder, or if there is something deeper going on here between the US and Russia.

    • Could this be in response to Obama having “openly gay” individuals lead to USA into the Opening Ceremonies in protest to Russia’s anti-gay policies?
    • Is Russia’s anti-gay policy a statement to its people that the USA’s freedoms are not good for Russia?
    • Could this be in reaction to the each other’s stance in the Syria’s civil war?
    • Could this be the beginning of the fight over the Middle East?
    • Is this Russia’s attempt to tell the US to stay out of its business?

    Recently it feels like we are in Oz and we are not to look behind the curtain. In this instance though, it is the Iron Curtain. Things are happening behind the scenes that we are not aware of, primarily due to distractions in the news like this Irena Vladislav “controversy”. It was interesting to see both the Chinese and Japanese holding their flags along with Russian flags as they marched into the stadium.

    So I ask: is this another argument between Russia and the US or is it posturing between these two for the ultimate showdown? Or is it just a huge “Bleep You” on a worldwide stage where everyone is watching.

    What are your thoughts? Your comments are appreciated.


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